Comments on: On Trying KSM in Court http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6122 Squaring the Culture Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:40:19 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: suek http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6122&cpage=1#comment-474944 suek Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:15:10 +0000 http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6122#comment-474944 "They claim to be defending the rule of law." They're following the Alinsky rule of "Make your opponents follow their own rules - all of them, to the letter. They can't do it" The short version: http://www.4-blockworld.com/2009/11/obama-and-ksm-the-end-game.html Here's another analysis of why this is such a stupid move: http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/10193.html#more-10193 I heard an interview with a Senator Reed on Fox News, in which he stated that the guilty verdict was a foregone conclusion, and even if by some chance he were to be found not guilty, he wouldn't be released. I could hardly believe it. Try a man, find him not guilty and then continue to hold him in prison??? Have we _really_ progressed that far down the path of the Soviet Union??? “They claim to be defending the rule of law.”

They’re following the Alinsky rule of “Make your opponents follow their own rules – all of them, to the letter. They can’t do it”

The short version:

http://www.4-blockworld.com/2009/11/obama-and-ksm-the-end-game.html

Here’s another analysis of why this is such a stupid move:
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/10193.html#more-10193

I heard an interview with a Senator Reed on Fox News, in which he stated that the guilty verdict was a foregone conclusion, and even if by some chance he were to be found not guilty, he wouldn’t be released. I could hardly believe it. Try a man, find him not guilty and then continue to hold him in prison??? Have we _really_ progressed that far down the path of the Soviet Union???

]]> By: RM http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6122&cpage=1#comment-474432 RM Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:37:38 +0000 http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6122#comment-474432 I am not a Graham fan particularly, but he did a good job here. The frustrating thing is the waste of potential; he could be a hugely effective weapon on an ongoing basis. I could be wrong but I'm seeing the Obama administration out on a high wire here. I know how they and the press will try to spin it, but I guess I still have enough faith in the American people that they will not to swallow this line of BS when it is trotted out. I think a lot of people were uncomfortable with the so-called harsh interrogations or "torture". But I think many of these same people know, in their heart of hearts, that what we are dealing with is evil and that dealing with evil sometimes takes the so called "rough men" who make the hard choice between bad alternatives to keep the rest of us safe. I think the non loon left portion of the public is capable of condemning the blunders at Abu Ghraib, while still understanding we are at war and that when dealing with monsters who play by no rules, we cannot always tie one hand behind our back. I don't think many people are in the mood after Fort Hood to hear the Times whining about how KSM and other terrorists were treated. I do not believe many people want to go back and hear for the umpteenth time from Obama about how we are a downright mean country through this particular prism. I think as time passes and as the Obama mystique has begun to wear off, the theme of blaming Bush has become tired as well. The public knows KSM is guilty, and if this trial is to be held, they will be looking for a reasonably prompt conviction and the death penalty. If something goes wrong legally to turn this into a circus or God forbid, security wise, I believe the blame will fall in Obama's lap. And I could write for the next two hours listing all the things that could go dreadfully wrong now that this farce has been set in motion. I am not a Graham fan particularly, but he did a good job here. The frustrating thing is the waste of potential; he could be a hugely effective weapon on an ongoing basis.

I could be wrong but I’m seeing the Obama administration out on a high wire here. I know how they and the press will try to spin it, but I guess I still have enough faith in the American people that they will not to swallow this line of BS when it is trotted out.

I think a lot of people were uncomfortable with the so-called harsh interrogations or “torture”. But I think many of these same people know, in their heart of hearts, that what we are dealing with is evil and that dealing with evil sometimes takes the so called “rough men” who make the hard choice between bad alternatives to keep the rest of us safe. I think the non loon left portion of the public is capable of condemning the blunders at Abu Ghraib, while still understanding we are at war and that when dealing with monsters who play by no rules, we cannot always tie one hand behind our back. I don’t think many people are in the mood after Fort Hood to hear the Times whining about how KSM and other terrorists were treated. I do not believe many people want to go back and hear for the umpteenth time from Obama about how we are a downright mean country through this particular prism.

I think as time passes and as the Obama mystique has begun to wear off, the theme of blaming Bush has become tired as well. The public knows KSM is guilty, and if this trial is to be held, they will be looking for a reasonably prompt conviction and the death penalty. If something goes wrong legally to turn this into a circus or God forbid, security wise, I believe the blame will fall in Obama’s lap. And I could write for the next two hours listing all the things that could go dreadfully wrong now that this farce has been set in motion.

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